How To Be Sad with Helen Russell

#6 Helen Thorn

March 24, 2021

Helen Thorn is an award winning stand-up comedian, writer and podcaster – one-half of comedy double act Scummy Mummies and co-host of the UK’s number one parenting podcast as well as the body positivity podcast, Fat Lot Of Good.


Here, Helen talks about her marriage ending in lockdown, the shock of the loss, the fallout and its impact on her family. This is a surprisingly upbeat episode and I promise you, it’s impossible not to feel better after talking to Helen.


In this episode, the Helens chat about:

  • Going through a divorce
  • Reimagining your future
  • What helps
  • …what doesn’t
  • How to be sad, when you’re usually ‘the happy person’
  • In defence of humour as a defence mechanism
  • Why Helen would much rather make 10 lasagnes than receive one
  • The power of Tina Arena’s “Chains” as a sad-soundtrack
  • …and the wisdom of Unikitty


(Sidebar: Helen R misquotes Nora Ephron at one point – for which she apologises profusely. OF COURSE, Queen Nora ACTUALLY wrote ‘everything is copy’ not ‘content’. Helen R has clearly been on social media too much this week…)


Follow Helen Thorn on Instagram @helenwearsasize18. Find out more about the Scummy Mummies at and follow them on Twitter and Instagram @scummymummies or Facebook @scummymummiespodcast

Follow Helen on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook @MsHelenRussell

Read more about Helen’s new book, How To Be Sad at Waterstones, Amazon or Apple.

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Thanks to Joel Grove for production and to Matt Clacher at HarperCollins for making this podcast happen.

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